Question:
Questions about upgrading a groupset?
Crain MD
2011-05-08 14:54:31 UTC
So I recently bought a Scott S30 bike http://www.rei.com/product/809916/scott-speedster-s30-compact-bike-2011 and I am looking to upgrade the group set on it because the group set on it right now is crap, but I am not sure what to get. I have been having a lot of people to go me to get campy and others telling me to get shimano. Any advice on what I should get? And are the wheels that come stock on my bike even compatible with a campy set, or would I have to get new wheels too? A final question is here is a link to the campy set I have been looking at http://www.eurobikeparts.com/proddetail.php?prod=CA-CE8PC10s-11 but there are a ton of different sizes for the crank (34/50, 39/53 etc) and a bunch of different sizes for the cassette as well and I have no idea what sizes to get. I live in an extremely hilly area with many steep hills and im not sure if certain sizes here would make climbing hills easier; any advice I would be beyond grateful for.
Seven answers:
bikeworks
2011-05-09 07:01:33 UTC
There is nothing wrong with the components on your bike... and they are not crap level.



I strongly suggest that you take the bike to a SHOP, not REI, and have them do a full adjustment on it.



You would simply be throwing away money by hanging better parts on a low quality frame. If you really want to upgrade, get a new bike which will be significantly cheaper than buying new parts (especially Campy, which is 100% NOT compatible with Shimano).
anonymous
2011-05-08 23:49:23 UTC
Shimano and Campagnolo will both work. If you currently use Shimano, you might need to get a new hub for a campy cassette, but the wheel is still fine. Personally, I am using Sram on my road bike and I am much happier with it, than I was with Shimano or Campy.





As for the crank and gearing I would keep the same ratios that you have now unless you have a good reason to switch.









In all honesty, I don't think you are really going to notice the difference in a component upgrade on an entry level bike like the Scott S30. Do you really want to spend $1,400 on a Shimano Ultegra group only to put it on a $400 bike frame?
Mtrlpqbiker
2011-05-08 20:14:50 UTC
Campagnolo and Shimano parts are not compatible. If you want to switch to Campy, you can buy cassettes that will work on a Shimano hub, but a Campy cassette won't fit. You are really better to stick with Shimano. However, Tiagra shifters are not "crap" they work very well if properly adjusted. Upgrading a bike shortly after you bought it is an expensive proposition. I know that hindsight is always perfect, but you will end up spending far more money than if you bought a better bike from the start. My advice is to keep riding your bike as it is for at least the rest of this year while learning more about what gearing and components will work best for you. If you like the idea of a bike with Campagnolo components, buy one with an 11 speed cassette and shifters and a compact crank for the hills in your area, then sell your old bike
nodopenomore
2011-05-08 19:08:23 UTC
If you are having trouble shifting it could be something as easy as an adjustment or even a bent hanger that can be easily repaired. My bike shop did it for free for me even when I bought the bike on line.



If you want to upgrade go with Shimano, at least a 105 or better depending on your budget. Ultegra will be a bit over the top maybe. For hills get the 34/50 (or a triple Tiagra, if you can fit it, 30/38/50) and a cassette like 12-28 or even 12-32. Campy is great but better don't go that way with your bike.
Benny Roberts
2011-05-08 15:42:00 UTC
If you want to upgrade then I would suggest going with full shimano ultegra and a 34/50 crank. Unless you want to spend another 300 on a wheelset alone don't go with Campagnolo. I say this from a practical standpoint even though I am a Campy die-hard. Campagnolo does shift better but it would be easier to just return your bike and buy one with Campagnolo. You can keep the cassette the same if you upgrade to Ultegra.
John M
2011-05-08 16:26:11 UTC
You just got the bike it will need tuned up as the cables stretch. It will cause shifters to mess up until the derailleurs are adjusted. The bike should be fine the way it is it just needs adjusted. I have Sora shifters on my bike and they work great because i keep them adjusted. You would be better off selling the bike and buying a better one. Have the shop do a tune up on it.



http://bicycletutor.com/adjust-rear-derailleur/
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